speaking his mind
January 27, 2021

Dr. Anthony Fauci is continuing to look back — and get brutally honest — about his experience working under former President Donald Trump.

Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, opened up about the Trump administration in a new interview with The Atlantic, recalling how the White House "became a different place" where officials broke from previous administrations' "deep respect for science," making for a "surrealistic experience."

For instance, Fauci recalled his frustration over Trump hearing things about the COVID-19 pandemic from random people like "a buddy he knew from somewhere" and taking it as seriously as what the experts were saying, as well as surrounding himself with "strange people" promoting "garbage" science. He also said Trump showed an apparent lack of interest in the pandemic.

"It's really tough to get into his head, but I think what was going on with him is he was not interested in the outbreak," Fauci said. "The outbreak to him was an inconvenient truth that he didn't accept as a truth."

Fauci remembers making administration officials "furious" by contradicting Trump's "nonsense," and at one point, the White House even sent out a list of things he allegedly got wrong about the pandemic that "was complete crap." In the end, Fauci said he tried not to let things like this bother him.

"People's lives are at stake," Fauci said. "I'm a physician. I'm a scientist. I'm a public-health expert. I know what I need to do. All that other stuff is just a distraction. Quite frankly, it's bulls--t."

At the same time, Fauci said he and Trump actually "really liked each other," and the president was "charismatic and likable on a personal basis," if "not on a policy basis." But with President Biden in office, Fauci said, it's as if "we went from an alternative world into a real world." Read the full interview at The Atlantic. Brendan Morrow

June 1, 2016

During a speech Wednesday in the manufacturing city of Elkhart, Indiana, President Obama staged what he called an "intervention" for Americans being misled by Republican policies and promises.

"Don't think this agenda is going to help you," he said. "It is not designed to help you." Republicans are pushing forward a message that's "anti-government, anti-immigrant, anti-trade, and let's face it, anti-change," he said, and he was ringing the alarm in Elkhart because "this county votes Republican." Obama also called out Republicans for criticizing regulations imposed on Wall Street. "Have we really forgotten what happened just eight years ago?" he asked. "Why would you do that? Less oversight on Wall Street would only make another crisis more likely."

The president said he was there to debunk "this myth of crazy, liberal government spending," noting that during his tenure the deficit has been lowered. He also said immigration reform is needed, but that deporting 11 million people is "a fantasy" that "wouldn't do anything to help the middle class," and said presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump's tax plan "would explode our deficit by more than $10 trillion." Catherine Garcia

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