Listen to Donald Trump plot a whites vs. blacks version of The Apprentice

Trump show The Apprentice had an apparently racist episode.
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Back in 2005, when Donald Trump was just a billionaire reality star and not a major party's nominee for president, he went on Howard Stern's radio show to discuss his latest idea for his reality competition, The Apprentice.

"One thing I want to ask your opinion [of]," Trump begins telling Stern, is a "concept thrown out by some person: nine blacks against nine whites." Stern immediately responds, "This I like."

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Kimberly Alters is the news editor at TheWeek.com. She is a graduate of the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University.