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Sam Nunberg says he thinks Mueller is really focused on Trump's business

Sam Nunberg's frenetic media tour continued Monday evening on MSNBC's The Beat with Ari Melber, with the former Trump campaign adviser saying that while he was offered immunity by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, he is refusing to testify before a grand jury because "they're trying to set up a perjury case against Roger Stone."

Stone is a longtime Republican operative and informal adviser to Trump. Throughout the interview, Nunberg, who was fired from President Trump's campaign in 2015, called Stone "a mentor" and "like a surrogate father" to him, and said he refuses to go in front of a grand jury "for them to set up a case against Roger, whatever case it is." The bombshells kept dropping, with Nunberg saying a case against Stone "could relate to WikiLeaks," calling Trump "the most disloyal person you're ever going to meet," and saying based on questions he was asked by investigators last month, he believes Mueller is interested in "something related to [Trump's] business," the Trump Organization.

Nunberg also explained to Melber why he won't turn over his correspondence with several key Trump figures, including former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, outgoing White House communications director Hope Hicks, former White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon, and former campaign adviser Carter Page. "Do you think I was talking to Corey and Hope Hicks while they were having their affair after they screwed over Roger and me?" he asked. Nunberg said multiple times he wasn't afraid of being held in contempt of court by defying Mueller's subpoena, declaring, "They're not going to send me to jail," only to ask Melber, a lawyer, if he thought Mueller was going to send him to jail. Catherine Garcia